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Poster: Executive Date: Apr 3, 2008 4:58pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: 2 More Items

Well, I don't know about that but.....as fans of Coca-Cola products might take a chance. :)

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Poster: Robin_1990 Date: Apr 3, 2008 5:09pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Missing TV Series

Sorry to change subject, But I posted this before and you didn't answer:

Are any episodes of "To Tell The Truth" PD? I don't live in America, So I can't see it. Back to missing mastertapes, The 2nd most important Aussie TV series of the 70's was "Young Talent Time", which almost everybody watched. When documentries show the program, They either use a Kinescope Recording of the 1st episode or a Christmas episodes, Or they use home taped recordings. The Ten Network erased most of the best episodes from what I've heard. Now, the 3rd most important Aussie TV series of the 70's was "Hey Hey It's Saturday", and it's 70's episodes are almost completly gone. The oldest clips ever shown are from the 80's. The 1st most important Aussie TV series of the 70's was "Countdown", and much of it's first 12 months are gone. But then, That's 70's TV.
With Aussie TV from the 50's/60's, Only a tiny amount still exists.

Now, To American TV. You, Of Course, Have heard about how ABC or Metromedia (Depending on who tells the story) destroyed basically the entire DuMont network archive. However, and strangely, A show called "Marge and Jeff" has over 20 surviving episodes, Despite being a flop! I'd love to see some of the Kinescopes, Since it was produced DAILY, and I love low-budget 50's TV.

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Poster: Technicolor_Is_Good Date: Apr 3, 2008 7:07pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: DuMont Network rocks

Any network which gave Jackie Gleason a job is OK in my books.

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Poster: Executive Date: Apr 3, 2008 6:43pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Well, To Tell The Truth....

Sorry to change subject, But I posted this before and you didn't answer:


===> No, I don't mind and it's refreshing to see you using a different reply title like I often do. :) I didn't see your original March 30 post until you brought it to my attention here today.


Are any episodes of "To Tell The Truth" PD? I don't live in America, So I can't see it.

===> I live in America, and I can't see it either because Game Show Network hasn't rerun the original version with Bud Collyer in at least a year. They occasionally will have a special presentation or viewer vote, which recently resulted in an episode from the OTHER, second classic To Tell The Truth series -- the 1969 to 1976 syndicated version hosted by Garry Moore (which continued for one more year beyond that when Moore retired, and was replaced by Joe Garagiola). It's that version that I remember most fondly because it was on when I was a young boy in the 70s.

The average 1980-81 version and well-done early 1990s versions are rarely seen anymore, but at least all of these first 4 editions were graced by the presense of both Kitty Carlisle and comedianne Peggy Cass on the panel. 1950s / 60s panelist Orson Bean also returned for the 90s version.

Version 3 was taped in Canada with Robin Ward as the host. The 1990-91 American version was originally hosted by comedian Richard Kline (in the pilot only), then Australian personality Gordon Elliott, who was later
replaced by former football star Lynn Swann.

All but the 1980-81 show were Goodson-Todman productions.

Game Show Network not only has shown all of the above, but they also have the fifth (and final) version from 2001, and unfortunately that's the only one they currently show on a daily basis. Hosted by actor John O' Hurley it's completely unwatchable.

I doubt that any of these are in the public domain, and the fact that a few of What's My Line are (also a Goodson-Todman show) is in itself amazing.


Now, To American TV. You, Of Course, Have heard about how ABC or Metromedia (Depending on who tells the story) destroyed basically the entire DuMont network archive. However, and strangely, A show called "Marge and Jeff" has over 20 surviving episodes, Despite being a flop! I'd love to see some of the Kinescopes, Since it was produced DAILY, and I love low-budget 50's TV.


====> I'm not sure who acquired the DuMont library after DuMont went out of business in 1956, but DuMont Network ended very shortly before the videotape era began, so unless they burned the films they had it's more likely they were locked away to rot in some vault. I've seen some DuMont shows, and they were so awful I don't have any interest in seeing them again. "Marge and Jeff" I never heard of.

This post was modified by Executive on 2008-04-04 01:43:43